Re: Kindly notice/meeting of Historians & Clergymen
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Partap Singh <partapsingh011@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sr Tarlochan Singh ji,
Happy to read about most sought after seminar involving known historians and equally known clergy/ Katha vachaks of eminence organised by the Institution under Ur guidance.
My heartfelt congratulations to u& Dr  Sagoo for this commendable initiative.
Looking at the time frame& different views likely to be expressed by one and all on topics under discussion I can well appreciate difficulties likely to be encountered to moderate this session. However final agreement for taking up specific topic is well thought of & we can expect some common ground & final solution to a logical conclusion. I am sure these efforts shall bring fruitful results in times to come for good of community at large.
 A good beginning which needs to be organised on quarterly basis before we lose sight of this initative.
Guru fateh,
Partap Singh
DIG( retd)
Camp Edmonton
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DIG S.Partap Singh Ji, 
I equally appreciate the efforts of S.Tarlochan Singh Ji for arranging the Seminar, and informing about the participants and topic discussed. However apart from that many recipients of the message do not even know what I,C.F.S.S. stands for" What was the minutes of the meeting. The conclusions arrived at and how it is going to benefit the humanity. Is the seminar helpful in bringing in line the leaders of the Current Leaders occupying and manipulating the SGPC and its Jathedars to mislead the Panth by rejecting the Original Nanakshahi Calendar approved and declared by SGPC in 1999 ? Isn't the act of 2010 rejecting that Scientifically accurate,well researched NS Calendar based on Gurbani Teachings and most accurate Sikh History based on facts, IS LIKE LICKING ITS OWN SPIT IN 1910 by rejecting that Calendar and Fraudulently keeping the Name Nanakshahi but Thrusting the Most Unstable Bikrami Hindu Calendar in its place. This is a Fraud with Guru Panth, Gurbani,and Science !!!!! I am sorry to express this but that is the reality of things.
There are many other matters that needed to be discussed but it appears that the group did not touch those topics. Some times one wonders if we all (well wishers of the Khalsa Panth)  are churning the water ?????
GURBANI IS THE GUIDE TO UNDERSTAND & REALIZE THE SUPREME CREATOR WHO IS PERVADING IN HIS CREATION. HUMANS ARE PART OF THIS CREATION OF THE CREATOR, AND THEY JUST ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUTHS ABOUT THE  WHY, HOW, WHEN, WHERE ETC OF THE CREATION (Including ourselves) WITH THE BRAINS AND PHYSICAL POWERS GIVEN TO US BY THE SUPREME CREATOR. THEREFORE, SCIENCE IS PART OF GURBANI TEACHINGS ITSELF AND CAN NOT BE SEPARATED.
Sadly enough the Dera Walas and for that matter many of the so called Jathedars of SGPC has no better thing to do but SLANDER (NINDIA) those who try to interpret and explain GURBANI in terms of SCIENCE.
This morning when I opened Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and started reciting Gurbani, it started on
 ANG 555-556: Salok M: 3 "
 Haumain Vich Jagt Mooa Mardo Marda Jaai II
 Jichr Vich Dam Hai Tichar Na Chatee Kih Kraig Agai Jaai II........'''
ਹਉਮੈ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਗਤੁ ਮੁਆ ਮਰਦੋ ਮਰਦਾ ਜਾਇ ॥
ਜਿਚਰੁ ਵਿਚਿ ਦੰਮੁ ਹੈ ਤਿਚਰੁ ਨ ਚੇਤਈ ਕਿ ਕਰੇਗੁ ਅਗੈ ਜਾਇ ॥……..’’’
 Dam Dam Sada Smahlda Dam Na Birtha Jaai II
 Janam Marn Ka Bhau Gaiya  Jeevan Padvi Paai Ii.............."
ਦਮਿ ਦਮਿ ਸਦਾ ਸਮਾਲਦਾ ਦੰਮੁ ਨ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਾਇ ॥
ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨ ਕਾ ਭਉ ਗਇਆ ਜੀਵਨ ਪਦਵੀ ਪਾਇ ॥……..’’
Continued in the same Sabd Salok M: 1
 kalee Andir Nanaka Jinna Da Autaar II
 Putu Jinnura Dhee Jinnree Joru Jinna Da Sikdaar II 1 II
ਕਲੀ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਜਿੰਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਅਉਤਾਰੁ ॥
ਪੁਤੁ ਜਿਨੂਰਾ ਧੀਅ ਜਿੰਨੂਰੀ ਜੋਰੂ ਜਿੰਨਾ ਦਾ ਸਿਕਦਾਰੁ ॥ 
 M::1
 Hindu Moolai Bhoolao Ahutee Janhee II
 Narid Kaheia Seh Pooj Kranhee II
 Andhai Gungai  Andh Andhaar II
 Pathar Lai Poojaih Mugad Gvaar II
 Oih Ja Aap Dubai Tum Kaha Tarnnhaar II2II .................."
ਹਿੰਦੂ ਮੂਲੇ ਭੂਲੇ ਅਖੁਟੀ ਜਾਂਹੀ ॥
 ਨਾਰਦਿ ਕਹਿਆ ਸੇ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਂਹੀ ॥
 ਅੰਧੇ ਗੁੰਗੇ ਅੰਧ ਅੰਧਾਰੁ ॥
 ਪਾਥਰੁ ਲੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਮੁਗਧ ਗਵਾਰ ॥
 ਓਹਿ ਜਾ ਆਪਿ ਡੁਬੇ ਤੁਮ ਕਹਾ ਤਰਣਹਾਰੁ ॥2॥ ……  ’  
        Many of the Jathedars neither understand GURBANI nor Science. In their Egos and Greed they allow themselves to be manipulated by the anti Sikh Forces and are responsible for creating turmoil in the Sikh Panth.
They are adopting the policies and conduct of Brahmans alias Hindus !
We Sikhs must adopt the Gurbani Teachings in our daily lives and must not abide by any Ades or hukamnamas that are NOT based on Gurbani Teachings and factual Sikh History to remain in CHARHDIKALA. And the process must be transparent throughout.
Ajit Singh.
Ajit Singh ajit@ajitsingh.ca